(610) 492-7387

Police fund raiser

(610) 492-7387 Live call recorded 24 October 2017 (Solicitation for the Pennsylvania Fraternal Order of Police Foundation)
Caller ID: "Newtown Squa PA"
Live call soliciting donations for the Pennsylvania Fraternal Order of Police Foundation.

Sometimes the only way to get these beggars to stop calling you is to annoy them and cause them to consume too many of their resources to call you, so that they won't want to contact you anymore.

The best way to do that is to offer a generous donation of $300 or more and give them a fake credit card number that passes the Luhn test and appears to be a valid card until they try to secure payment from it. If you are on the phone with them it will drive them crazy reading the digits back to you to make sure they got them correctly, as fake credit card numbers that pass the Luhn test do. After several trials, offer them another card. Give them a second fake credit card number and waste their time some more. Tell them your cards are good, you just used them earlier that day to buy something from Amazon. Finally, they'll volunteer to send you a pledge kit in the US Mail for you to fill out and send back to them. Be sure to give them a fake address to waste their postage. When their pledge kit is returned "Invalid Address", they'll probably call you again and you can offer them yet another fake credit card. It shouldn't take long before they flag your phone number on their predictive dialer and you stop getting calls from them for a year or longer.

Here is a transcript of this intrusive and unwanted solicitation call:

Call is now being recorded.

[me:] Hello?
[male voice 1:] Hello, good afternoon, this is Joel Collins calling for the Pennsylvania Fraternal Order of Police Foundation. The call is recorded for quality assurance. Okay?

[me:] Okay.
[male voice 1:] Sir the reason for my call the PA FOP Foundation just kicked off their fund drive and as a paid fundraiser for Residential Programs we're sending out the new pledge get to all supporting residents. The goal of the drive is to help provide assistance to families and local lodges when FOP members are killed in the line of duty, assist injured, retired and elderly FOP members as well as create and maintain a State Memorial for officers tragicly killed in the line of duty. Now sir, when you receive your pledge kit, can the Pennsylvania Fraternal Order of Police Foundation count on you for a fully tax deductible donation?

[me:] Uh yes of course.
[male voice 1:] How fantastic. Well the top spots for the drive are 95, 75 and 55. Now which one is comfortable for you?

[me:] Uh could you repeat those please?
[male voice 1:] Oh, Uh I was just sayng the top spots for the drive are 95, 75 and 55. Now which one is comfortable for you?

[me:] I I think I would like to contribute more than that. Can I contribute more than $95?
[male voice 1:] Okay, well, we don't want to send it out without an amount printed out that your hundred percent comfortable with, so what what's a minimum amount that you can commit to and then once you receive it if you can give more great, so what's a comfortable amount that you can commit to?

[me:] I would commit to $300.
[male voice 1:] Now let me just ask, are you comfortable with that amount?

[me:] Yes I am.
[male voice 1:] Great. Uh now all I need to do is transfer you over to the records department so they confirm your information and have you on your way, so please stay on the line.

[me:] Okay.
[male voice 2:] Hi, it's Robert Cradess of the Verification Department. How are you today?

[me:] I am just fine. How are you doing this afternoon?
[male voice 2:] I'm doing really well. I am paid to make certain you have been correct. Sir, how much did you promise to donate to support the Pennsylvania Association of the Fraternal Order of Police?

[me:] Uh $300.
[male voice 2:] $300? That is very generous of you sir. Now to process your pledge we accept Visa, Mastercard, American Express or Discover. Which one will you be using today?

[me:] Oh uh, don't you send out a uh like a pledge form with the decal and then I return it with a check?
[male voice 2:] The reason we do ask change today. It allows funds to get to work more quickly for the organization. We use Paypal to search and secure. Did you make an exception for the Pennsylvania Fraternal Order of Police Foundation? I need your credit, debit or brace card today, sir.

[me:] Okay, let me just reach into my wallet here, hold hold on a second, my wallet is just out of reach.
[male voice 2:] Okay.

[me:] Okay, let's put this on a Visa card.
[male voice 2:] Alrighty sir, may I have the first and last name as it appears on the card.

[me:] Yeah, the first name is Merle, and I better spell that for you. Em e are el E, Merle.
[male voice 2:] And the last name?

[me:] The last name is Pierce pea eye e are ce e. Pierce.
[male voice 2:] At this point I'm ready for the card number as soon as you are.

[me:] Okay, it's four 5 5 6.
[male voice 2:] Mm hmm.

[me:] 5 1 6 9.
[male voice 2:] Mm hmm.

[me:] 6 6 3 8.
[male voice 2:] Mm hmm.

[me:] Zero one one zero.
[male voice 2:] And expiration date?

[me:] Uh it expires April of 2019 two oh one nine.
[male voice 2:] Thanks much sir, the donation's $300, right?

[me:] Correct.
[male voice 2:] Alright, um, just let you know, an additional gift of $5 to your original pledge will offset some of the costs for the drive while [unintelligible] for the programs. Can they count on you for the additional gift of $5?

[me:] Alright now, you were breaking up. What about $5?
[male voice 2:] It would help offset some overhead cost for the drive and allow more funding for the programs. Can they count on the additional gift the $5?

[me:] Oh, uh, you want an additional $5 to offset cost?
[male voice 2:] I'm supposed to ask fortunately, yes.

[me:] Uh yeah, I'll donate an extra 5.
[male voice 2:] Alright at this point I'll submit your card for verification, please give me a second as it processes.

[me:] I'm sorry, I can't hear you. What?
[male voice 2:] Give me a second while it processes.

[me:] Okay? I can hold.
[male voice 2:] Yeah because the card won't process, you made a mistake...have you a ball gus.

[me:] Yeah, the number is 4 5 5 6, 5 1 6 9...
[male voice 2:] Mm hmmm.

[me:] 6 3 8...
[male voice 2:] Six three three eight?

[me:] Correct. 38.
[male voice 2:] Okay.

[me:] Zero one one zero.
[male voice 2:] Okay. I'll try it again. Please give me a second as it processes. Mmmmm. Now just one second. Hey some reason you know is weird, but I got to get my manager hold on one second please.

[me:] Okay.
[male voice 2:] Sorry about that sir. Give me just one second while it processes.

[me:] Okay. Alright. I'm going to read the card number one time it is 4556. [male voice 2:] 5 1 6 9.

[me:] Right.
[male voice 2:] 6 3 3 8.

[me:] No no no. Double six 3 8.
[male voice 2:] Double six 3 8.

[me:] Correct.
[male voice 2:] Then oh one one oh. Then expiration is 4/19.

[me:] Correct.
[male voice 2:] some reason it does not want to go through. is your middle initial on the card?

[me:] Uh yes, my middle initial is...middle initial is jay, like Joseph.
[male voice 2:] You don't know how many times with that being the problem.

[me:] Merle J. Pierce.
[male voice 2:] Hang on just one more second.

[me:] Okay.
[male voice 2:] Um do you have a daily limit on your card at all sir?

[me:] Daily limit, no. The only limit I have is that it can't be used overseas. Are you calling me from overseas?
[male voice 2:] What's that, what's the expiration date, this isn't overseas sir.

[me:] The last day of April two oh one nine.
[male voice 2:] Two oh one nine and the number again is 4556.

[me:] Right.
[male voice 2:] Five one six nine.

[me:] Right.
[male voice 2:] Six six three eight.

[me:] Correct.
[male voice 2:] Zero one one zero.

[me:] Right, now I noticed you didn't ask me for the 3 number from the back.
[male voice 2:] Yeah that's 'cause we never ask for that because we don't need it.

[me:] Okay, usually people ask for that okay, and you got my middle initial jay, Merle J. Pierce.
[male voice 2:] vFor some reason your bank is blocking us from sending it, processing it.

[me:] Well, would you like to try a different card?
[male voice 2:] Uh if you have a different card, sure, and then, the first name's spelled em e are el e, correct?

[me:] Correct.
[male voice 2:] Okay. [unintelligible], (background supervisor "try a different card") Alrighty. If you have a different card we'll try that sir. Sorry about this.

[me:] Yeah, just a second here. Oh I got to get my other wallet. Hang on just a second while I get my other wallet.
[male voice 2:] Take your time.

[me:] Okay, uh you accept Mastercard?
[male voice 2:] Yes.

[me:] Okay, five three seven one.
[male voice 2:] Mm hum.

[me:] Six one two two.
[male voice 2:] Mm hum.

[me:] Six six seven.
[male voice 2:] Mm hum.

[me:] Five two five.
[male voice 2:] And the expiration date for that?

[me:] Expires the last day of May two oh one nine.
[male voice 2:] Alright. This point [unintelligible]. Alright. Five three seven one.

[me:] Right.
[male voice 2:] Six one two two.

[me:] Right.
[male voice 2:] Six six seven five.

[me:] h no, no no no.
[male voice 2:] Alright.

[me:] No, that's completely wrong. Okay the first two groups of 4 were you had correct.
[male voice 2:] Right.

[me:] The third group for is 8 6 6-7.
[male voice 2:] 8 6-6 7 and the fourth group?

[me:] Six five two five.
[male voice 2:] Alright. Thank you very much, sir.

[me:] We have a bad connection here.
[male voice 2:] Yeah.

[me:] I find it hard to hear you a lot.
[male voice 2:] Yeah. I'm not sure I'm hearing you as well sir. And can I get your complete mailing address as well to get your letter out to you?

[me:] Uh Yeah, yeah, uh just a second uh let let I'm getting another call here. Let me decline it. Oh okay, they hung up. My address is three four zero eight, that's 3408, Tipple, t i p p l e, Road
[male voice 2:] Mm hmm.

[me:] And that's in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
[male voice 2:] And the ZIP Code?

[me:] 19118.
[male voice 2:] 19118. Alright, and then the name on the card is still Merle J Pierce?

[me:] Yes.
[male voice 2:] Okay. This card is also blocking it for some reason. Sir I'm sorry we'll we'll [unintelligible] get a pledge kit out to you and you can mail it back if that'd be alright.

[me:] Yeah, that'll be good. I'm kind of running out of time here someone's waiting for me.
[male voice 2:] Yeah, let's just get it mailed out to you should take two days to get your pledge kit. In there will be an official receipt for 99 dollars cuz whatever is in pledge kit.

In there there'll be an official receipt for $99 cuz whatever is in your pledge kit[unintelligible]. I think the weather along since [unintelligible] again, all contributions and gifts your position are tax deductible. One last thing before I let you go, can the Fraternal Order of Police Foundation definitely count on you to send back your $99, your $300 donation as soon as you receive your pledge kit in the mail?

[me:] Uh, within a day or two, yes.
[male voice 2:] Great. Thanks once again for supporting the Fraternal Order of Police Foundation, have a great rest of your day.

[me:] Okay, you too.
[male voice 2:] Thank yew, bye.

[me:] Goodbye.
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