He's back. Beware if you see a comment on here saying, "It's not a scam. It's Citibank." because those comments are posted by the same guy who's making all the calls OR by someone he successfully scammed and THINKS he's legitimate. If you gave him any info, please check your cc and bank accounts now, just to be safe, before they're possibly cleaned out by this scam artist.
Scammers have an internet connection too, just like you, and post comments on these boards KNOWING that you'll probably search out the number after you've seen it on your ID so many times. Posting a legitimate-looking comment is a tactic used to get you to second guess the calls, because if you see that another person says that "it really is Citibank", then it can make you believe that it's really them. Since MOST PEOPLE have an account or card somehow affiliated with "citi-something", the chances are you at least won't question that part of his story, either! Last go-round he used the business name "Shell". Next time it will probably be "Visa".
The calls originate from overseas and are forwarded (known as "spoofing") to a U.S. area code and then misrepresented (easy to do) as a KY number on your caller ID. That's why if you try to call the number back you usually find out it isn't even a real phone number. Even if it does by chance turn out to be real and someone answers it, they see YOUR real number on their caller ID and now have confirmation that you are paying attention to when they call YOU. Normally if they use a real phone number to call you they won't answer when you try to return the call, but instead set up a fake answering machine message using whatever the current company name they're scamming with ("You've reached the Citibank offices"......blah blah blah) to further advance their plan.
Beware: even if the scammer already knows some of your payment or personal account information (background and credit checks are easy to get on the internet for free or very cheap with only knowing your name, address or phone number. Ask your employer or insurance company if you don't believe that) , do NOT give them any additional info about yourself whatsoever but instead demand to be removed from their call list immediately and inform them they have 30 days according to law to comply or you can file charges. Tell them, "I hereby notify you according to United States FCC LAW to immediately remove my phone number from your list or face penalties within 30 days when I file a complaint against you for using phone lines for spoofing your real phone number which is a federal crime. You will not be warned again. You have 30 days." and then hang up. (Not speaking to you when you answer the phone is another tactic they use to eventually make you mad enough that when they call for the 50th time and finally do speak, they are sure to have your attention. But say the suggested sentences anyway as they are still on the line and will hear you.)
If they won't remove your number and keep calling back, ignore it. Or pick it up then immediately hang up EVERY TIME. Or let your machine get it but pay no attention to any message they leave. Just happily delete them. The calls will stop within a few days when they have to move on to more lucrative possibilities instead of continuing to waste their time every day on getting the cold shoulder from you. This is their bread and butter after all, so if you stick to your guns they'll choose another possible victim to scam who doesn't recognize their phone number. BUT IF YOU KEEP speaking to them, getting angry, making threats, they'll keep calling for weeks to try to break you down. Don't do it. Keep your cool and hang up, or push a number repetitively in their ear 20 times and then hang up. Or take the phone off the hook for a while (shut off cell phone). Whatever, after you've warned them once , never again give them the satisfaction of having a conversation with you.
If you have call blocker with your caller ID service on your phone, use it.
Here's a link explaining how:
http://www.att.com/esupport/ma...
Here's a link to the FCC complaint page:
https://consumercomplaints.fcc...
This explains caller ID spoofing:
https://consumercomplaints.fcc...
The truth shall set you free.
Hope this helps someone.
http://biblehub.com/proverbs/2...
Proverbs 2
P.S. Anytime I get a telemarketing, unknown or scamming call I give them the Good News, aka "The Gospel Message". I report all scammers regardless, as they should have to face the legal consequences for breaking the law in what they've already done AND/OR have attempted to do. But they also need to first and foremost stop stealing: turn from their dark ways and put their faith in the True One, having a real heart change to bring about a lasting "new leaf"; born again better, if you will. Normally they just hang up on ME and never call back. That's par for the course, as most of these evil-doers will run fast in the opposite direction of the Truth and the Light in order to stay hidden so that they can revel in the cover of darkness and lies and continue in their thieving ways, choosing rather to love themselves above everyone else as well as the One Who gave them this life to live in the first place! Hopefully they'll see the problem with walking a dark path at night before they fall in a 6 foot hole in the ground and it's too late.
So I warn them once with a message taken from this:
http://www.areyouagoodperson.o...
This page has a few audio recordings by Mark Spence demonstrating how he gives the gospel to telemarketers the way our Savior taught, if you're interested in learning how to do it:
https://www.facebook.com/OfficialMarkSpence
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Total scam. Beware if you see a comment on here saying, "It's not a scam. It's Citibank. You're over your limit and payment is due." because those comments are posted by the exact same people who are making all the calls! The scammers have an internet connection just like you and post on these boards KNOWING that you'll probably search out their number and read these comments. It'll get you to second guess the calls or believe you ARE past due because MOST PEOPLE have an account or card somehow affiliated with Citibank. Last go-round they used the name "Shell". Next time it will probably be "Visa". The calls originate from overseas and are forwarded (known as "call spoofing") to a U.S. area code and then misrepresented (easy to do) as a KY number on a caller ID. That's why when you call it back you find out it isn't even a real phone number. Even if it does by chance turn out to be real and someone answers it, they see YOUR real number on their caller ID and now have confirmation that you are paying attention. Normally if they use a real phone number to call you they won't answer when you try to return the call, but instead set up a fake answering machine message using whatever the current company name they're scamming with to further advance their plan. Also even if they know some of your payment or personal account information (background and credit checks are easy to get on the internet for free or very cheap with only knowing your name, address or phone number. Ask your employer or insurance company if you don't believe that) , do NOT give them any additional info about yourself whatsoever but instead demand to be removed from their list immediately and inform them they have 30 days according to law to comply or you can file charges. Tell them, "I hearby notify you according to United States FCC LAW to immediately remove my phone number from your list or face penalties within 30 days when I file a complaint against you for using phone lines for spoofing your real phone number which is a federal crime. You will not be warned again. You have 30 days." and then hang up. (Not speaking to you when you answer the phone is another tactic they use to eventually make you mad enough that when they call for the 50th time and finally do speak, they are sure to have your attention. But say the suggested sentences anyway as they are still on the line and will hear you.)
If they won't remove your number and keep calling back, pick it up then immediately hang up EVERY TIME. Or let your machine get it but pay no attention to any message they leave. The calls will stop within a few days when they have to move on to more lucrative possibilities instead of continuing to waste their time every day on getting the cold shoulder from you. This is their bread and butter after all, so if you stick to your guns they'll choose another possible victim to scam who doesn't recognize their phone number. BUT IF YOU KEEP speaking to them, getting angry, making threats, they'll keep calling for weeks to try to break you down. Don't do it. Keep your cool and hang up, or push a number repetitively in their ear 20 times and then hang up. Or take the phone off the hook for a while (shut off cell phone). Whatever, after you've warned them once , never again give them the satisfaction of having a conversation with you.
If you have call blocker with your caller ID service on your phone, use it. Here's a link explaining how:
http://www.att.com/esupport/main.jsp?cv=807&ct=9001834&pv=2
Here's a link to the FCC complaint page:
https://consumercomplaints.fcc.gov/hc/en-us/sections/200383400-Wireline-Consumer-Guides
This explains caller ID spoofing:
https://consumercomplaints.fcc.gov/hc/en-us/articles/202654304-Caller-ID-and-Spoofing
The truth shall set you free.
Hope this helps someone.
http://biblehub.com/proverbs/2.htm
Proverbs 2
P.S. Anytime I get a telemarketing, unknown or scamming call I give them the Good News, aka "The Gospel Message". I report all scammers regardless, as they should have to face the legal consequences for breaking the law in what they've already done AND/OR have attempted to do. But they also need to first and foremost stop stealing: turn from their dark ways and put their faith in the True One, having a real heart change to bring about a lasting "new leaf"; born again better, if you will. Normally they just hang up on ME and never call back. That's par for the course, as most of these evil-doers will run fast in the opposite direction of the Truth and the Light in order to stay hidden so that they can revel in the cover of darkness and lies and continue in their thieving ways, choosing rather to love themselves above everyone else as well as the One Who gave them this life to live in the first place! Hopefully they'll see the problem with walking a dark path at night before they fall in a 6 foot hole in the ground and it's too late.
So I warn them once with a message taken from this:
http://www.areyouagoodperson.org/
This page has a few audio recordings by Mark Spence demonstrating how he gives the gospel to telemarketers the way our Savior taught, if you're interested in learning how to do it:
https://www.facebook.com/OfficialMarkSpence